Commie Bastards Restrict MLM Downline Growth!
With Egypt’s recent freedom it’s hard to believe that dictatorships are still arising. And worst of all the commie bastards have reached MLM.
I love the MLM industry, and it seems contradictory to me that in an industry where people value their freedom from a boss, freedom from a crappy job, freedom from a strict work schedule and the freedom to have control of their income that anyone has allowed for restrictions on any of those things.
I’ve been pitched recently on a couple of MLM’s that claim to be the NON-MLM solution. They feel that the “pyramid” of MLM creates only a few rich people at the top and lets those at the bottom suffer. (duh, that’s what pyramids do, however, in MLM any average Joe has the freedom and ability to reach the top, unlike corporate America). So a few MLM’s (wait, my bad,,, NON-MLMs) have stepped in to create a socialism comp plan to make everything “fair” for everyone.
(NOTE: I’m not going to mention the names of any of the companies that do this. There’s more than one that does this. And don’t get all pissed off if your MLM does this. It’s just my opinion, don’t be so serious,,, cuz I’m not)
Here’s a general idea of how it works.
You are allowed a maximum number of people to join per month for a total period of 24 months. The companies I’ve been pitched on lately have a maximum number of 1 person per month. So that means you are given 24 vacant spots in your downline to fill over a 2 year period. If you have more than 1 person that wants to join, then they get on a waiting list.
There are certain conditions under which you are able to bring in more. For example: if you reach a magical level in the company and your downline doesn’t bring in anyone that month, then their vacant spots roll up to you and you can put extra people from your waiting list into your downline. (Some of the companies using this structure also have unlimited “open enrollment” at various times of the year, or if you hit a certain qualifying level, or if your waiting list hits a certain number where you can sponsor as many people as you want.)
Let’s look at that more closely. You’re only allowed 24 people to come into your downline. If you make a mistake or have a family emergency and don’t bring someone in that month then you sacrifice that spot to your upline and they get to fill it for themselves. There’s a chance later that you will get vacant spots that will roll up to you from your downline. Or you qualify to draw vacancies from the company pool. But if that doesn’t happen, then you just lost a sponsoring placement.
I don’t get it.
MLM was created so that there could be the freedom for people to be creative, expressive, break free from the restrictions at their job and create their own financial freedom. So why in the hell did someone think it was a good idea to create an MLM that restricts the possibilities of financial freedom that are possible with MLM?
Oh that’s right, they call it a NON-MLM because their idea is that you build a single line of reps below you. Got news for you guys, once your downline start sponsoring it’s still going to branch out like a pyramid. However, it’s going to be restricted so it won’t grow into too large of a pyramid. So if you don’t want to be in an MLM,,, then don’t join one!
Rock Out Wit Yer Badself
I got into MLM to get away from the restrictions, the “being fair” and everyone having their own “fair share”. That’s bordering on socialism to me. I wanted the freedom to be able to dictate my own income level based off of my own production boosted by the leverage of a network. I think a restriction on how many people you can sponsor per month is the exact opposite of what MLM stands for. Which is why I guess they call it a NON-MLM.
If I broke your heart and hurt your feelings today because you are in one of the companies that support the “NON-MLM” socialist theory of sponsoring, don’t take it personal. We all have our own utopian ideas of what we want to be a part of and build in this world. You build your single line twig of a downline and I’ll go build an empire with the freedom to sponsor at will (no waiting line here).
NOTE (added after original posting of this article): After receiving some of the comments below I would like to point out AGAIN that I NEVER mention any particular company in this post. I am talking about the STRUCTURE of the more than 1 company’s COMP PLAN and sponsoring methods. (So don’t take this so damn personal and get all butt hurt, because if you support this kind of comp plan and sponsoring structure then OBVIOUSLY you don’t like the methods of the company I am in. And if that’s the case, then write your own blog post about how you hate unlimited income and that you don’t like the freedom to build your business at the pace you choose.)
And if your panties are in a bunch because you think I didn’t do my “research” on your company before writing this… I researched more than one company that does this therefore I didn’t give specifics of any one company. It’s the IDEA of restriction that I’m talking about here, I am not talking about you, not your company, and not your product.
Just thought I’d clarify that for those that are seeing red and are ready to slit my throat the second that they assume that I’m singling out their company.
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1 of the things I hate is when companies come into our arena and soil the sanctity of what we do.
2 think that a company would intentionally want to limit the growth of their reps is just so silly.
4 as long as I can remember in my time in MLM I have never seen such a horrible idea….ever!
So essentially have to wait out each month, to get to the next to be allowed to sponsor someone.
U have got 2 be kidding me. Is that even a business? If that happen to a conventional business,
Conforming to such standards, it would go out of business within a no time and would have never
Know when they would have the opportunity to have another person come in to give them business.
So why would this work, in such a competitive world like MLM or even in direct selling. I think
these people are out of their minds to join something that limits their growth, when it is essential
that they have the ability to grow as fast as they can as the economy gets so much worse.
1 point you bring up makes a lot of sense 2 me. That I hadn’t thought of the traditional businesses compared to this b4. Since the companies using this call themselves NON-MLM’s I guess it’s fair to compare them to another NON-MLM business, such as a traditional business. It would make no sense for a store owner to limit themselves to bringing in 1 new customer per month and then to have only 24 customers at the end of 2 years. They would be out of business in their first month. Restricting the flow of people that you can work with in MLM will never make sense to me.
Or what about the companies that refuse to let their reps market they way they want? Some won’t even let their reps go online to grow their business. Or the companies who won’t let their reps use tools such as a marketing system for example. It’s dumb! Numis loud and proud is the way to go.
Course I might be a little biased.
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Here’s the worst,,, first company I was ever with wouldn’t even allow for the reps to mention the company name unless it was in a closed private presentation of the business! Caaaarrrrrrraaaaazzy! And I’m biased too, because Numis allows us the freedom of all of the choices you mentioned. Plus, I’m allowed to say their name,,, Numis Numis Numis……….. Numis.
I know the main company you are talking about, One24, and I wasn’t aware that they were claiming not to be an MLM. That is stupid, because they are obviously a Network Marketing company.
I have mixed views on it honestly; personally, I don’t like it because it limits the amount of money that people can make, and handicaps the people that are able to produce. I really don’t see how it helps people that can’t produce either, because if you don’t know how to recruit, you aren’t going to produce no matter what the system is.
The flip side of it that I could care less if someone wants to be a part of a more communist MLM system. There are enough people out there with bigger dreams, that don’t expect something for nothing, and I’ll just focus my energy on sponsoring them. These systems are doing a great job of weeding the “tire kickers” out of my potential recruits.
-Aki
That’s the latest and most popular one using this structure. So far they seem to be the only one that is being successful with it and I think that’s because of their open enrollment time. The other companies in the past had smaller loopholes for sponsoring more all at once.
Which that kind of just emphasizes the point that if they didn’t have restrictions then more people could and would join and then perhaps that’s a lesson to companies that would think about putting restrictions in place. The less restrictions and more opportunity for unlimited enrollment the more they would actually be competitive in Network Marketing.
Ok, ok…I just can’t keep my mouth shut, as I am a Proud One24 PC and I too Love network marketing!
Here’s the thing, One-24 isn’t just about recruiting, it’s about building a retirement plan. Helping to restore our economy and increase Health and Wealth.
We don’t go out and mass recruit because it isn’t necessary, although if that is what you want to do you can. You sure will retire faster that way. It’s meant to grow slow, so that over a 24 month period you can earn a residual income, hence creating a retirement. Also the fact that the slow the recruiting down, allows the company to keep up with the production needs. That is why so many companies fail; they mass recruit and can’t keep up.
This is also so the 70 year old Grandmother or the busy college student can have a great product, continue to live healthy and start to build residual based income that will allow them to enjoy their health with some money to boot. This is a real retirement plan; you just have to invest a little time in it.
Also of course it is network marketing; everything we do is networking to a degree. One-24 is just not your typical MLM. Now that is a FACT! The fact that you earn a % from every single person is huge in any business. That is where the UN part comes in. You earn in the linear! So there are separate parts to how you can earn in One24, the MLM portion which is your Greens, and the Linear, un-mlm which is your Silvers. Now for the big recruiters, there is the Gold. Now here is the thing, there is a lot of money to be made in the gold because of matching bonuses, and such, the person who loses that green ticket earns too. The Gold allows you to enroll as many people as you choose, so there is no limit on that end, just a time restraint, which actually makes it FUN!
The waiting list, well that is just plain fun too. Any real team builder is going to make sure that their waiting list is short as they will place people under their greens. Why wouldn’t they, it pays better to do so. This also keeps attrition down to a minimum.
Then we have NatraBurst! I am a living testimony to what this product can do for people and their lives. I am a burn victim with full thickness burns, I was unable to do the normal things that so many people take for granted every day, such as walking to the mail box. I was never able to wear high heels, or pretty girly shoes. I can now! The reason for this is that NatraBurst has thickened the skin on my feet, and is healing the nerve damage that was caused from the burns, that made normal walking and exercise excruciating to do.
With this plan, you pay $70.00 a month, get a top of the line Nutritional Food, (and that again is life changing), get paid for using it, provided you share it with other people. There is no way to lose here. If people would take 3 months, and really use the product faithfully the nutritional benefits they would receive alone are worth 10xs what the product costs and you can’t put a dollar amount on your health!
One24 is an amazing company, It may not be the right fit for some, however, there are over 22,000 people that seem to be on the Road To Retirement, by utilizing this brilliant Comp plan and product. I being one of them that will retire in my 30′s because of what One24 is doing for my life!
Hi Tara, everyone is assuming that I’m talking about your company in this post. I make no mention of any company in this post because there is more than one company in the history of MLM that has used this model.
I appreciate your enthusiasm for your company.
And no matter if the company is in a straight line it is MULTIPLE LEVELS and you are MARKETING, so calling it un-mlm is a lie, or at the very least a smoke screen.
And the waiting list and restrictions really don’t give that 70 year old lady any advantage when there’s a magical opening in the time space continuum where the heavy hitters can swoop in and sponsor as many people as they want. (which I do make mention of the special sponsoring times when you can sponsor more than 1 in a month).
The theory behind setting up an MLM company (YES it IS an MLM) with this kind of restriction and then all of a sudden a loophole to the rule makes no sense to me, and by opening up the Gold Rush,,,, doesn’t that make it hypocritical to the plan to grow slow?
Where the heck did you find that unicorn picture lol!! I’m thinking these people just want to be able to get away from the swear words of multi level marketing. Some guy in Church last week started ranting on Amway and how the people who wanted to get him into the business only became his friend to recruit him. The guy does monologues about his life. Aren’t we supposed to go to church to be enlightened and edified? LOL Anyway the really funny part is how he talks about how he has to work 12 hour shifts being a nurse and doesn’t get enough sleep and blah blah blah. WHATEVER people!! Stop complaining about your lives if you’re not going to do anything about it.
Well this comment didn’t have much to really do with your subject but that’s okay. I needed to let this out!
Love ya Steph!
~Erin
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LOL, isn’t that pic hilarious??? I laugh everytime I look at the pics on this post. Go to youtube and look up Charlie the Unicorn, you have to watch “Candy Mountain”. Shun the non-believer,,,,, shunnnnnnnnaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!
That just makes no sense at all but we agree with Aki that at least those companies are weeding out the people who aren’t serious and who want something for nothing. We’d much rather work with people who want to lock arms and build an empire so as to create a fun rewarding lifestyle- LONG TERM! The thought of having restrictions in this venue is just so laughable! It’s all about FREEDOM Baby!
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haha, I could kiss you two,,,, it IS laughable for a company within this industry (whether they think they are an MLM or not,,,, they ARE an MLM) to put restrictions on their reps growth. Because this is the industry that people choose when they’ve had enough of restrictions, regulations, red tape that holds back businesses from growing, not being able to take vacation time, or worse yet,,,, having to ask permission just to go to the bathroom. Are we back in elementary school again?
I need to simmer back down or I’m going to be given a time-out.
Now Steph, there are both good and bad companies in every industry. Unfortunately, some of these, “Bastards” are just plain fools, if you limit the distributors success then the company will suffer as well. Some companies are way to restrictive and just don’t see the big picture.
Great post.
Randy
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Yup, every industry has it’s good points and bad points. I love this industry because it allows us to also voice our opinions at the things that are just ridiculous. The government puts enough restrictions on everything we do in life (including what we do in MLM), so it seems absolutely crazy to me that a company within MLM would restrict it’s reps. In the comments above Erin pointed out how other MLM’s restrict how their reps are allowed to market for the company. And my first exposure to MLM was with a company that wouldn’t even allow us to say the name of the company online unless it was in a closed webinar with prospects. Isn’t that crazy? I’m in this for the freedom and don’t understand why any MLM would want to put more restrictions on that than absolutely necessary.
Excellent blog post Stephanie and I knew exactly who you were talking about even though you were being professional and not mentioning any names. This is the only business (MLM, Network Marketing) that you can get into that will generate the type of income that we all desire and want.
You should never just join a MLM without finding out the details, and you should never tell yourself that you won’t be able to do it.
After all if Burke Hedges can do it you can to, if you don’ believe me just ask David Wood……LOL
To Your Success
David Miller
LOL, I shoulda named this one “Who Stole The MLM Dream?” in honor of Burke’s book. But I went with a title DW would more likely choose because I was so fired up when I wrote this! There’s enough restrictions that the gov’t puts on the things we do. I’m disappointed and disgusted to see any MLM put unnecessary restrictions on their reps.
Doesn’t make any logical sense – how long can a Non-MLM company remain in business if, as a business, it really doesn’t support the idea of its own growth! Wouldn’t want to invest my time with such a company.
Hi Stephanie. I am in “that company” that you are referring to in this post and the first thing that I have to say is that, if you have actually done the “homework” on this company, or your information is second hand, then you would have known that the amount of reps that you can sponsor is NOT limited. This is why we have our Gold Rush at the end of each month. We have had individuals bring in as many as 400 people personally in one month during the Gold Rush.
Also, your comment about, “that as a rep in One24 you don’t get rejected, you are the one that gets to reject people joining you. Which is asinine since you get that choice in any MLM”, you would be surprised art how well this strategy works on individuals when you POSTURE yourself correctly. Personally, this strategy has worked very well to my advantage, since I know that I have the ability to help everyone.
As far as the “pyramid” goes, this only applies to our bonuses, such as the silver performance bonus, and our platinum bonus pools. But you do NOT, and I repeat DO NOT have to participate in these bonuses to get a hefty income in One24.
I really appreciate you writing this article, but I must contest that the bases of your article is founded on a half truth. You CAN sponsor as many reps as you want each month.
But you can only use One Green ticket. If you knew how many people have been helped tremendously by this “Non- MLM”, then I don’t think you would be so quick to judge, especially since again, your article only tells half the story.
I have a suggestion, why not, create content on the whole story instead of pieces that you want to use to just to get a lot of comments on your article.
It is true that we all need people that know or want to know how to market, but we we all put on this Earth to live in abundance, not just a select few. One24 allows that option by capping your income at $100k/month (it’s actually $200k/month), and taking the rest of those funds to put back into the comp plan for those that need help.
Personally, I have several people that do not know how to recruit like I do, yet they are getting checks in the mail EVERY MONTH, because of my ability to sponsor and they are actually benefitting from their upline (me).
Also, most of my team members are covering their monthly cost ($69.75/month) simply because of all the 10s of 1000s of people that they dont know, who are contributing to their monthly income. Once your monthly expense is paid for, then as you know, you are in the black, and everything else is profit.
I will leave it at that, you have a great blog by the way, but please, for the sake of your viewers,provide them with ACCURATE information if you are going to bash another company. There are quite a few things that I could say about Numis, but there is no need.
Keep up the great work Stephanie. (no that was not sarcasm),
Bryan Clark
Early Retirement Consultant
706-409-4035
FIRST I do make mention of the magical moments in the time space continuum in which the sponsoring isn’t restricted.
SECOND I never named the name of any company in this post. Because the company you are in is the newest one to be using this kind of restricted growth that’s just what people are assuming.
And it is an MLM,,,, because even if it is a straight line,,, it has MULTIPLE LEVELS and you are MARKETING. So quit using the smoke screens and calling it something that it’s not.
I appreciate your long comment defending your company and what you do. You’ll never convince me to sway my opinion of this kind of structure and restrictions and “special sponsoring times” but I will leave it here (along with your contact info) for those who like your point of view on the post. Because I can appreciate that there are some people that need a regimented sponsoring structure and control over in everything they do in life.
Stephanie, I read through your comments, and you specifically made mention that you were speaking against One24. I made sure that I was clear on that instead of just “assuming” that you were speaking about this company. Second, this is your blog, but your condescending tone is unnecessary, and down right rude. I am not sure what has happened to you in your life, but your attitude is very unattractive. I am not one to “restrict” or need restriction in my life, hence why I make a hefty income online, and why I do not have a day job.
And it’s not about “defending the company…it’s about the simple truth of the matter. You are NOT restricted to sponsoring one person a month, you can sponsor as many as you like, but anyway at this point you aren’t listening anyway so I’ll save my breath. But for those who are reading this, please tell me how the “restricted NON MLM” is working for average everyday people by doing a youtube search for “One24 paychecks”, and you tell me what’s what. Documentation beats conversation every time!
To Your Success Stephanie!
Stephanie NEVER makes mention to One24, the comments do, but she does not. I reread through the post and yes…she never says the exact company. I do mention it however, and I have been pitched on it enough and had explained to me enough to not like it or the people who have pitched it to me. I thought this concept was new and unique to just One24, but apparently in her research she found others that do the same thing…and I have talked to other people who have seen this structure in other companies before as well.
You defend your company, because it is your company..of course you will side on the behalf of it. To others looking in, the restrictions, the special loopholes, and the time period is very limited in scope for anyone coming into it. Add in another “me to” health and wellness product coupled with the silly 24 month thing and 1 person per month..unless you get a golden ticket from Willy Wonka and make it to the end of the maze of his castle and you can bring in more…maybe.
Your explanation as well as Tara’s pretty much just solidifies what everyone else is saying in the comments about it and changes no one’s minds from their initial impression of it and considering the economy…most of the people who are doing this restricted growth project don’t have time to wait out each month to get to sponsor more people..they have to make it happen right now. In 24 months the company may not even exist or the economy could get to a point where the super special product no longer becomes worth buying when people’s houses, finances, and life could be in peril.
Good Luck with One24…your going to need it!
Blaine, have YOU researched Incentived Referral Plans before? You are taking Stephaine’s word for it, not saying that her word isn’t GOLD, but what research have YOU done to make an educated statement about a companies’ compensation plan? You see I do my research, my research has provided me with the information of who is making the money in all of these MLMs… anyway, I wont got there, but personally, I chose One24 because of it’s structure. I would really like to know how many of your team mates are getting checks every month, and can prove it. But that’s neither here nor there. Stephanie is entitled to her opinion about any company, I dont care if she thinks One24 is a bunch of B.S. Numbers don’t lie, and I can say that all of my team members are getting a check every month. Thats why I have them shoot a video on their progression. Because Documentation Beats Conversation.
Say what you want, but when you have shcool bus drivers going to JP Morgan and Chase to cash a One24 check every month, then well that just speaks for itself. You say I need “luck”? HA, I have skills that “solidify” my ability to create my own income and not have to worry about the government handouts, and my team members are duplicating my efforts. I guess we were just “lucky” to have an opportunity that pays monthly and on time.
Good Day to you Sir
I’m becoming confused with reading your comments Bryan, which is it… is there a waiting list or is it possible to sponsor as many as you want?
And again, I have made no mention of any company in any of this. I made it a point not to because there is more than one compensation plan that is like this that I looked at, therefore since there is more than one that I looked at I couldn’t have gone into detailed specifics without writing a blog post on each company since each one has a slight variation from the other. It’s the general concept of having a waiting list that I find to be the most absurd thing I’ve ever heard of. Those comments regarding companies are coming from other people. And looking back through them it doesn’t sound like they’ve had a very good experience with the reps that have approached them with it.
Stephanie, there IS a waiting list, and there Is also a way for you to sponsor as many people as you want each month. My intentions in commenting were NEVER to persuade you into my level of consciousness, it was only to point out that fact that your article is based on the fact that companies “like” One24 have “special recruitment times” or however you put it, but I LOVE to know what other companies you are referring too. Oh do tell. You can email me at whoisbryanclark@gmail.com so that you can “enlighten” me. Oh, and please for give my ignorance. I see that you did NOT mention the company name, you only CONFIRMED it when Mr. Aki made mention of it, but you then went into some specifics about our comp plan, so I apologize for stating that you mentioned the name. Don’t you just love loopholes?
I respect your opinion about One24…as a matter of fact, I’ll just leave it there. I wish you all success
I went and did some more research on One24 to try and understand your comments. The more I learned the more I’m totally put off by the entire concept behind the company. However, I am beginning to like that they call themselves UN-MLM so that they aren’t included in the same industry as what I am doing.
Ah, so now you’re admitting that your research wasn’t as thorough as previously projected. It makes since now. One24 isn’t for everyone Steph (Obviously), but for those involved, we have no complaints.
LOL, if that’s how you want to read that, then sure, I’m an idiot and didn’t look at anything before I wrote this post. I just made it all up. So since I made it up I guess there’s nothing for anyone to care about or comment on.
Your comments were contradicting saying that ppl had to wait on a list to get a ticket to join, but then saying that there were no restrictions on sponsoring. You didn’t make sense, that’s why I went and did more research.
Stephanie Deneke you make me laugh, this was totally a great perspective!
Sometimes I come across things that make no sense no matter how much people re-explain them, this concept of a waiting list probably made me dumber after learning about it.